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jimerickson: Congratulations rhavern!

rhavern: Quad G34s rock. Mine puts out ~600kPPD.

MarkAGR: Uh? Just woke up from my winter hibernation ... Good Morning everyone! I nearly made it 23m over the winter! I think there's a quad cpu G34 machine on it's way.

toTOW: Anyone alive ?

toTOW: Happy new year to all fellow folders :)

warmon6: Look like the web site needs an update or 2. starting to see cob webs. (could at least mention about bigadv change happening in Jan. ;)

toTOW: Recredit has ben run ... all points should show up now :)

toTOW: Stats are down since the last network outage :(

MarkAGR: OK, so there's a 16 core minimum ... so does anyone know how to produce a 16 core virtual machine from a cluster of ubuntu boxes?

MarkAGR: Where did all thw stats go?

jimerickson: Http://bit.ly/tkpFnJ

jimerickson: 16 core minimum for bigadv. wow!

Adanorm: Hi ! We just applied patches to the site, if shoutbox goes mad, just CTRL+F5 !

jimerickson: Http://bit.ly/okqvf7

jimerickson: Happily folding smp now. and currently earning 2000ppd more than with bigadv. go figure.

jimerickson: I detest p2684, after this one is finished i am moving to smp.

Amaruk: FahCore 11 (ATI) support is scheduled to end September 1st. http://en.fah-addict.net/news/news.php?id=352

hootis: >toTow I think i saw it somewhere either on the folding forum or here, but i cant remember. just wondering if any1 knew.

toTOW: Divery> yes, a little ... on an i7 920 @3.5 GHz (no GPU), I get something like 15k PPD with regular SMP and 22k on BigAdv ...

toTOW: Hootis> did we mention it in one of our news ? anyway I don't remember :(

divery4eyes: Am thinking of adding a couple of smp boxen. is big adv still preferable over regular smp.

hootis: Dose anyone know when the ATi Gpu2 clients are going to be phased out?

MarkAGR: Sniff sniff :(

KaySL: That might explain the weirdly low point yield I'm now getting...

jimerickson: Bigadv bonus reduced from 50% to 20%


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Welcome to FAH-Addict

  Welcome to FAH-Addict, the primary source of information about the Folding@Home project. Our goal is to provide:

  • latest project news
  • tutorials for installing or optimizing clients and OS's
  • hardware reviews

Please enjoy your visit, and feel free to send us your suggestions and/or report errors.

Our latest reviews:

Today we are highlighting the work of Chris Garcia's laboratory at Stanford Medical School. The laboratory team had a great idea to re-engineer a very important protein used to treat cancers and Vijay Pande's laboratory got involved in the research by providing computer simulations that help to understand the mechanism by which the new protein worked. The results are exiting. You can access to the full article at this address:

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-03-scientists-boost-potency-side-effects.html

Summary
The utility of a naturally occurring protein given, sometimes to great effect, as a drug to treat advanced cancers is limited by the severe side effects it sometimes causes. But a Stanford University School of Medicine scientist has generated a mutant version of the protein whose modified shape renders it substantially more potent than the natural protein while reducing its toxicity.

Source: Vijay's blog

toTOW On: 04/12/12
New FAH logo About one year after the public beta release, the v7 client (7.1.52) is finally considered as stable enough to become the official Folding@Home client. The main new features are:

  • Client code rewritten from scratch
  • Multi platform client (unified GPU, SMP and uniprocessor)
  • Centralized interface to manage all running cores.
  • A new viewer that should work better.



This release has been synchronized with a full redesign of the project official website. The old academic looking website is replaced by a much more modern one which should be much more easy to use for public audience. The new site is now guided by three steps:

  • Ready: Discover Folding@Home, proteins, why to fold them and the most important, how to help.
  • Set: Client download (the recommended version is adapted according to the OS of the machine visiting the website)
  • Fold: An installation guide, some information about the monitoring (FAHControl) and the viewer. Access to different level of help (FAQ, technical documentation and Official Forum) and a whole section about points, statistics, ladders and third-party statistic websites.


The site should also display in your language automatically when you visit http://folding.stanford.edu/



The new website is simpler and more attractive so as the new client that would probably be of a great help to convert your friends and family to join the Folding@Home project. You don't have to be a power-user anymore, FAH is ready to be spread widely!

Source: Vijay Pande’s Blog

toTOW On: 04/12/12
Many folding users have reported that they encountered issue with GPGPU after installing nVidia 260.10 WHQL and 295.73 WHQL drivers on their machines.

The issue symptoms are GPGPU client crashes after a few minutes/hours when the machine is folding alone whereas it works fine most of the time. The core starts to crash in a loop on an UNSTABLE_MACHINE error, which makes the client to go into sleep mode because of the high number of detected failures.

After investigations, we have discovered that the problem is related to monitor sleep/standby mode. When it turns off, the WU that was running is completed fine, but all the following ones throw the error mentioned above. It looks like with these two versions of the drivers, the GPU is also deactivated when the monitor is in sleep mode. This removes the GPU from the available devices for CUDA or OpenCL applications.

The workaround is quite simple and can be done using one of the following suggestions:

  • keep your older drivers (285.62 for exemple) if you don't need the new features
  • disable monitor standby in power control panel, and turn your monitor of manually using the power switch.

The issue has been reported to the nVidia's forum, so we hope that the manufacturer will take it into account for the next driver releases.

Source: nVidia's Forums

Updated on 04/10/12 à 15H10 UTC:
The latest beta drivers released today (301.24) seem to solve the GPGPU issue encountered with previous WHQL drivers.

Source: Official Forums

toTOW On: 04/10/12
A key aspect of the research done by the Folding@Home project has been the use of computational methods to design new drugs, mostly for Alzheimer’s disease. At University of Virginia, Michael Shirts' laboratory is developing these methods to use FAH power to fight diseases.

Generally, the small molecule works as drugs by biding to specific locations of important proteins. For example, an antibiotic works by binding to a protein of bacteria which interfere enough with the pathogen's internal workings to disable it or to kill it. By targeting only protein sites that are unique to the pathogen, drugs can have a very precise effect without risking to hurt the human molecules or desired bacteria that live in our body (like intestinal flora which contributes to digestion). The same principles can turn on or off specific parts of our own protein machinery, allowing the design of drugs that fight diseases related to the breakdown, mutation or malfunction of our own cellular machinery, like Alzheimer disease, heart diseases, diabetes and many other conditions.

It is however very hard to calculate exactly how tightly a given small protein will bind to a target protein, or even exactly where and by what mechanism it will bind. A number of computational methods are used in industry today to estimate the binding affinity of small molecules in the process of drug design, but they mostly rely on approximations that are computationally cheap and very approximate, rather than more expensive methods that have the potential to be much more accurate. With Folding@Home, researchers now have the capability to perform rigorous evaluations of these more complete methods, understand their limits, and make them more efficient and reliable.

Michael Shirts' team has been developing its own method that works mostly on well known systems such as FKBP, a protein on the immune system signaling pathway. Once the methods are well-understood, we will be moving on try to design small molecules to treat AIDS (the HIV reverse transcriptase enzyme, required for DNA to replicate) and influenza (various proteins involved in virus cell entry). Such molecules will still require significant effort to make into drugs, since drugs also have to dissolve easily, penetrate cells, and not be broken down to quickly, but being able to predict more easily which molecules interact tightly with the intended targets will be a huge step in the right direction.

Michael Shirts' team is also contributing to improve Folding@Home infrastructure by working to port new versions of the Gromacs molecular simulation platform to Folding@home and improving the interface and integration between Gromacs and Folding@home.

Source: Vijay's blog

toTOW On: 04/10/12
Understanding protein folding has many application areas in biology and biomedicine. For example, consider one of the major research areas of Doctor Peter Kasson's laboratory at University of Virginia: the study of how the influenza virus infects cells. In the past, Doctor Kasson and Doctor Pande have studied two aspects of this process: how the influenza virus recognizes the receptors on the cell surface to infect the « right » cell type and how small vesicles fuse.

Doctor Kasson's group is now studying the function of the viral protein that controls cell entry, a protein called hemagglutinin. The hemagglutinin protein interacts with cell membranes: one piece inserts in the cell membrane, refolds, and alters the membrane in some unknown manner to promote the virus entry in the cell. Another piece links the virus and the cell membranes and refolds to keep the two together. Some simulations are running on Folding@Home to study each of these pieces of the hemagglutinin. Doctor Kasson's laboratory also looks at these processes experimentally.


Hemagglutinin protein


Both of these problems involve protein folding. This extends the problem of understanding protein folding beyond the « canonical » model of an unstructured protein in water taking on a final shape but instead in the first case it is about a small protein inserting into a lipid membrane and changing shape in response to its environment, and in the second case, it is a large protein changing shape in response to physiological cues.

Future news will address methods that Doctor Kasson's team has developed to assist in these studies as well as other important problems they work on. The team is also contributing to improve the efficiency of running Folding@Home simulations and analyzing the results. The Folding@Home community has made an importent contribution in providing the computing power for these studies (as you can see on the project results page) and the researchers are grateful to all donors involved.

Source: Vijay's blog

toTOW On: 04/10/12
Here is message from Professor Xuhui Huang’s laboratory at Honk Kong University of Science and Technology, another research group that collaborates with Folding@Home project. Professor Huang and his laboratory have created many methodological applications to FAH (refer to this publication) as well as important research on the molecular nature of Huntington’s Disease. Here is an update from Professor Huang:

In the past couple of years, Folding@Home has greatly contributed to the team’s research on understanding the molecular recognition processes. Molecular recognition, such as enzymes that need to recognize their substrate and drugs that have to be designed to bind to specific receptors, is crucial to biology and medicine. Experimentally probing the chemical details of molecular recognition events is challenging, while computer simulations have the potential to provide a detailed picture of such events. With FAH donors’ help, the team is running large scale simulations on a group of Periplasmic Binding Proteins aiming to reveal the general relationships between protein structures, its intrinsic dynamics, and mechanism of recognition process.

Folding@Home projects involved in this experiment are in the 7700-7712 range. Professor Huang’s team greatly appreciates the help of all the FAH donors, the beta testers and the rest of the FAH team to make their research on molecular recognition possible.

Source: Vijay’s blog

toTOW On: 04/10/12
This news is coming from one of the key researches of the Folding@Home project which is studying proteins folding in collaboration with Prof. Jesus Izaguirre lab at the University of Notre Dame.

The Izagurre's lab at University of Notre Dame is working with Vijay Pande's one at Stanford to produce a new GPU core that leverages the amazing speed of OpenMM implicit-solvent force calculations (the heart of Folding@Home GPU core) and adds a new method called LTMD (Long Timestep Molecular Dynamics). This combination allows an about 10 times simulation speedup over what OpenMM is capable of for systems from the WW domain (35 residues, 544 atoms) to the Lambda repressor (80 residues, 2000 atoms). This speedup allows about 10 milliseconds of simulation per day of computation, which get Folding@Home platform closer to the ability to simulate a single trajectory in the millisecond scale.

In collaboration with Cauldron Development (lead by Joseph Coffland, main developer of Folding@Home v7 client and some cores), researchers are hoping to build a GPU core that might be the first CPU/GPU hybrid core. There are still some technical questions that need to be sorted out about how to best achieve this and a talk with beta testers should be engaged when the core will be closer to entering in production.

To go further, researchers will continue to improve LTMD GPU technology to achieve greatest performance improvements on larger systems that will have a better biomedical interest. A very interesting improvement would be to extend this technology to explicit solvent simulations.

As far as scientific simulations, we simulate folding of about 80 mutants of the Pin1 WW domain, a protein involved in some cancers and the Alzheimer's disease. Understanding the role of these mutations in protein misfolding might have great biomedical consequences since many diseases have at least some components linked to protein misfolding. Another project that is about to start will simulate the dimerization during folding of proinsulin and its mutants, which results in some Type IA diabetes.

Izaguirre lab thanks the Folding@Home donors, the beta testers and Vijay's lab for their generosity and their leadership that made such advanced simulations achievable.


WW domain



Adapted from: Vijay's blog

toTOW On: 03/01/12
As already announced, some changes are ongoing in the "BigAdv" project: the minimum number of required cores is increasing and the deadlines will be shortened accordingly to reflect the need of faster return of these new projects. Vijay Pande posted some explanations about these changes:
The "BigAdv" project has been developed on purpose to address the fastest machines available, which is of course a moving target. This project uses the highest-end machines involved in Folding@Home on projects that are unusually big (related to the memory needs or the upload/download requirements) and which require a large amount of computing power. Luckily over time, the CPU computing power is increasing and the high-end systems follow the same dynamics. Scientific researches enabled by the folding donors are exciting and have an impact at both computing power and fast return needs. As a result, having 50% of computing power running "BigAdv" projects wouldn't help so as if older or bandwidth limited machines kept running these projects where fast return of result is very sensitive.

As announced previously, Pande Group objective is to tighten the "BigAdv" projects deadlines. As a result, only machines with a minimum of 16 cores will be able to receive these projects. New projects are being designed for this new phase of the project that we will call "BigAdv-16". This design took a bit more time than expected, but researchers have completed internal tests and they are now starting the beta test phase. A new server has been set up to deliver these projects. Since it is an early release, points and deadline are monitored closely. You may expect some adjustments during the test phase.

Once the new "BigAdv-16" projects will be stable, older "BigAdv-12" projects will be converted as "BigAdv-16". The schedule for these changes remains unknown. On the other side, the old "BigAdv-8" projects will be definitely abandoned (even if they are almost gone already).

To conclude, the Pande Group is well aware that the number of cores is not a perfect measure for system performances. In the future, the team will attempt to design a better measurement. We will keep you informed about the changes when they will be announced.

Happy folding and thanks for your continuous support to the project.

Adapted from: Vijay's Blog

toTOW On: 03/01/12
Tux fixed ! This news is coming a bit too late but reminds us a little bit of nostalgia … or anger … :D

Citation:
The cross memory attach patch developed by Christopher Yeoh has been incomporated in 3.2 Linux Kernel.
The objective of this work is to improve the performances of the processus that rely on MPI (Message Passing Interface) layer. This norm is often used for high performance computing because it allows many processors in clusters to exchange messages to process data.


Yes you read it accurately, if we folders now have wonderful multithread implementations of Gromacs core, MPI no longer being used for Folding@Home since the switch to SMP2, the rest of the world is still using it ! To summerize the optimisation by Christophe Yeoh, MPI used to generate two copy operations for each message exchanged. The new implementation only requires one, which greatly reduces the amount of data exchanged between processes.

Citation:
Christopher Yeoh modified the OpenMPI library in order to use the new cross memory attach feature and he ran a few benchmarks on a 64 cores machine using POWER6 CPUs. As expected when removing a costly copy operation, the tests show a big performance improvement:

Summary
Number of processus 4 8 16 32
MB/s without pach 1235 935 622 419
MB/s with CMA feature 4741 3769 1977 703


Those gains would have helped a lot our Core 2 Quad CPUs in the past ! Congratulations to Christopher Yeoh and to the other contributors to the Linux kernels to keep going further !

Even of we’re no longer using this technology in Folding@Home cores, some BOINC projects are working on SMP implementations of their scientific application using OpenMPI. We hope this technology will help to speed up their computations.

Source : Linux FR (in French)

toTOW On: 01/25/12
Happy new year ! Greetings noble visitor! The FAH-Addict team wish you a happy new year 2012, maybe the last one according to some predictions, but … let’s enjoy it :D

2011 has not really been a good year for FAH-Addict, the administrators being overworked for good, or very good reasons. Congratulations to Frodo The Hobbit who got married in the end of 2011 ! In 2012, we’ll try to do better, we owe it to you because of your continuous support to the site !

Feedbacks on what we announced



2011 Folding switch to v7 : TRUE !
Finally, it’s here, and it works pretty well. Although it is not mandatory yet, the v7 client are doing well though open beta and it’s way easier to use for the new donors !

2011 BigAdv returns on Linux : TRUE !
Thanks to the A5 core released this year, Linux users are able to fold BigAdv WUs again.

2011 ATI cards are able to fold more efficiently : TRUE !
With GPU3 (which require v7 client), ATI cards are back to the business. All issues are not sorted out yet and performance improvements are expected, but we hope the future ATI drivers and core releases will help.

This year has also seen the following changes : the extension of the quick return bonus to uniprocessor projects, the A4 core gaining the possibility run both in uniprocessor and SMP modes, some updates to the stat system and the opening of the closed beta.

Consulting the FAH-Addict’s crystal ball


For 2012, nothing is clear yet. Last week, BigAdv projects have been repositioned to aim 16 core (or better) machines, but excepted this obviousness there’s not a lot to speculate on. The project has gained in maturity, so it’s up to us to keep folding ;)

So for 2012, are we going to see GPUs go back in the competition (with ATI’s Southern Island and nVidia’s Kepler) or a Folding core for ARM CPUs (which are growing in number and processing power) ?

Feel free to share your opinions on the Folding@Home project future …

toTOW On: 01/21/12
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